Yes, and that gets lost in the conversation too. This issue of representation is really life or death, especially when we’re talking about children, like when I look at the dearth of representation in children’s literature. It makes me so sad, because I think about how kids of color have to grow up with this idea that the image of divinity and heroism is not them. And what does that mean? What does that mean for me, as a young Latino, trying to find people who look like me, or even were like me?

We talk about physical features a lot with representation and simplify it that way, but really we’re talking about something as deep as spirit, and rhythm, and soul, and narrative power. Those are all things that are part of the diversity conversation that get lost, because we’re so used to the Burger King kids’ club version of diversity where it’s like, “Oh yeah, paint the guy’s face brown, hey diversity!” That’s not actually diversity. We’re fighting for something much more in-depth than that.